We just passed the six-week mark since the Amazing Free Book Giveaway Weekend, and it’s time to start evaluating the entire process for success or failure. I’ll crunch the numbers later, but right now I want to discuss one of the “softer” aspects of the AFBGW.
As part of the AFBGW, I went out to LinkedIn and joined a few writers’ groups.
I joined these groups because it’s a quick way to reach a lot of people at one time. Writers are (presumably) readers as well, and some of these groups have membership up in the five-digits. With one post, I could (presumably) reach thousands and those posts could (presumably) drive traffic to my blog, my AFBGW promotion, and my books. In addition, the groups can (presumably) provide a venue in which to discuss Things Writerly, and I looked forward to entering discussions on style, debates on the value of writing disciplines, and reading posts on marketing strategies.
What I found was very different.
Echo Echo Echo
I found a surprising amount of duplication between these groups. Members who post in the Aspiring Writers group will copy their post verbatim over on the Fiction Writers Guild (and to the Literary Fiction Writers Group, and to the Let’s Talk About Writing group, and…and). Though I didn’t analyze it, I would hazard that this duplication accounts for anywhere from a quarter to a third of the new posts on a given day. That’s a lot of noise in the signal.
Flogging
An even larger proportion of content is simply adverts, and I don’t mean blatantly promotional posts like the ones I made about my own AFBGW. I mean posts about a (presumably) writerly topic like, say, the use of adverbs. Click on the topic, read the post, and it’s a push for the writer’s editorial service. Common adverts posing as posts:
- Book promotion posts (…guilty as charged, but at least I was honest about what the post was)
- Posts touting an interview with the author
- Posts bragging on a review of the author’s work
- Posts that are nothing but a link to a post on the author’s blog (which takes the discussion out of LinkedIn and is therefore useless)
- Posts driving readers to the poster’s editorial business
- Posts driving readers to the poster’s publishing business
- Posts driving readers to the poster’s latest book on the topic of the post
Posts of these types account for at least two-thirds of the new posts in every single group I joined.
[cracklecrackle] Are we reaching? [cracklecrackle]
Hardly.
Talking Heads
Nearly the entire remainder of posts (we’re down to somewhere between 25-30% of the entire content, now) can be categorized as
- Newbies asking about the most basic topics
- “How long should my chapter be?” [smh]
- Discussions from the barely computer-literate trying to self-publish
- “How do I save this as a PDF?” [rtfm]
- Discussions of the “rules” of writing
- Don’t get me started…
- Questions by
trollspedantsspoiling for a fightlooking for a chance topontificatestate their views- Here’s a tell: anyone posting an outrageous blanket statement is just trying to goad you
- Poseurs who have few (if any) legitimate credits, and whose posts are filled with puffery and advice regurgitated from the latest issue of Writer’s Digest
- There’s one guy who likes to propose broad topics with sage-like style. I clicked a post, which took me to his blog, on which he had listed his (one) novel. There was a typo on the cover of his novel. (And if you’re wondering, it’s spelled “deceit,” not “deceipt.”
Is Any of it Worthwhile?
It’s not that there are no legitimate voices to be heard in these groups. It’s not that it’s all rubbish.
During the past six weeks, I have met a handful of nice, thoughtful, reasonable, talented, and experienced writers. Unfortunately, these people tend to be quiet, reserved, and polite; i.e., they’re almost never listed as “top influencers” in these groups, and their comments are often shouted down by the floggers, the pedants, and the poseurs.
But overall, is it worthwhile?
Summary
- For the newbie seeking advice, the danger is this: Half the posters on LinkedIn are idiots, a quarter are poseurs, and a quarter have something legitimate to say; but how do you tell them apart?
- For the established author, the only value I can see is in providing a venue for promotion. I haven’t seen any content on the industry, on marketing, or on craft that an experienced author wouldn’t already know or that couldn’t be gained with greater ease from a different source.
- For the experienced but un-established author (like myself) the discussions are–almost without exception–banal and repetitious. Any pleasure I might get from providing good, time-tested advice to a newbie is completely overwhelmed by the sheer volume of duff-headed advice from wankers. The networking aspect is the only aspect of true value, but even there the signal to noise ratio is dismal, driving LinkedIn’s usefulness downward.
Overall, it’s a time-suck. Overall, it’s a black hole waiting to draw you over its event horizon.
Overall, it’s wiser to spend the time writing.
k
Someone just posted this on a thread on LinkedIn that I think is apropos: “This is truly a real life experience. All that was said and done already in this thread is not found worthy to take notice of, and everything starts all over again, to be repeated ad nauseam.”
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Within just the past six weeks, I’ve noticed that, too. The same sad-ass questions keep coming up, the same “rules” are debated, the same “pundits” and “experts” pop up to respond.
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Deceipt: The small paper slip you get in return for fooling someone.
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[Snort!]
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The most fabulous dissection of LinkedIn I’ve yet come across. I couldn’t agree more wholeheartedly that, by and large, it becomes an utter drain of valuable time. I particularly love the line: “Half the posters on LinkedIn are idiots, a quarter are poseurs” 😀 Although I feel you are missing out the 9% who are just straightforward downright freaks.
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Hehe. I was being diplomatic, maybe?
k
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As an over-generalization, Pohl’s Law is proving itself to be on the low side for all things internet, including LinkedIn. But even if 90% of everything is garbage, wasting a little time once in a while on this site, and there are probably others that are more geared to literary types, can expose a pearl, if you’re lucky. A person or an idea that ‘does it’ (whatever ‘does it’ means for you – for me it is like a firecracker in my brain) will make up for all the wasted time
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Hey, Gidi. Yes, there can be pearls in there, and by themselves they’re sometimes worth picking up. For myself, though, I need to guard against things that draw me in and waste time better spent elsewhere. Writing a novel takes a lot of time, and procrastination is tempting enough on the best of days. I just need to maintain a “target poor environment,” if you know what I mean.
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Hmm… yeah. Welcome to the internet. Forums of any kind have a fair amount of what you mentioned here, and anything that is designed specifically for [insert creative profession here] will be overwhelmed with spam directed at that profession.
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Indeed.
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Obviously, Kurt, I cannot say I am surprise in having been down this road myself (wink). In fact, I would say you are more gracious and optimistic than I would be / am in your assessment.
Overall, this is a peripheral effect of the new e-self-publishing bubble. As with all such bubbles, like the dot-com craze, the bigger it grows the harder it is to penetrate to the core… that is, if the core still exists. I don’t think it does anymore, and we will soon approach the bursting point.
When the spatter has settled and dried up, maybe there will be room for something constructive again. But for now, put on that rain gear and wait.
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“When the spatter has settled…”
Snort! You slay me.
Maybe what we need isn’t rain gear, but one of Dexter’s bio-hazmat suits.
Thanks, JC.
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I’d have to agree. With what I find on Linkedin lately I wonder why I bother. Over time it’s been rewarding, esp. in the beginning stages. Lately though I find on there just a lot of what I already know or as you indicate, much chaff not to chaff about; people who are wrong, people who are trolls, some very attractive trolls at times, but trolls nonetheless. But more often than not lately, I find myself just deleting email notices of what groups I’m in. I keep on there mostly for the networking possibilities and once in a while I find something worth hanging on there,
Thanks for the post.
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De nada. The main problem is, it’s seductive. You _think_ you’re spending time in a fruitful manner, but if you step back, you realize you’re just frobnicating.
I also discussed this with our hosts during our weekend visit with writer friends. They’re NTY bestselling authors, but even so, he went over to LinkedIn just to test the waters. After a month, he’d come to the same conclusion.
Wait until you read the post on the results of the AFBGW…
Thanks, JZ.
k
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